Comments on: The Truth About Michigan’s Proposal 2

By: Ryan

Ryan — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:04:33 +0000

Scott, we’re not killing anything. Proposal 2 doesn’t increase the amount of embryos created.

once created, they are going to be discarded anyway.

So we’re not killing more. We’re simply using what was already killed for research instead of throwing it in a trash can.

Are you against organ donation? this is the same thing.

As for “haven’t found a cure yet.” – these things take time. Look how long it took to cure malaria, or for flu shots, or smallpox. If it’s not quick and easy we shouldn’t do it?

By: Scott

Scott — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:00:38 +0000

California had the same thing proposed and they still haven’t found any cures after 3 billion dollars so what is the advantage of having it? We whould be spending money for nothing and killing life.

By: Brian Craig

Brian Craig — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:32:26 +0000

@george: Yeah… save lives until they’re OUT of the womb, right? After that, life no longer matters to you, does it?

Spoken like a true Neocon.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:34:49 +0000

George. did you even read it?

It has absolutely NOTHING to do with abortion.

I wish people would drop the whole abortion debate and start doing something about the unwanted pregnancies.

Treat the cause, not the symptom.

By: Phil

Phil — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:56:36 +0000

If they are going to be thrown away anyways, that would be okay with me. However its the last line of the proposal that gets to me. Proposal 2 would “Prohibit state and local laws that prevent, restrict or discourage stem cell research, future therapies and cures.” I don’t know about everyone else, but I don’t want a law that would prohibit future laws that could limit stem cell research. Prohibiting future laws against this research would mean that we can’t make new laws against it, but leaves the door wide open to make more lenient laws.

By: George Nicoloff

George Nicoloff — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:07:59 +0000

Proposal 2 is PRO-abortion period.It is part of their agenda.
Vote NO to save lives.

By: Landon

Landon — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 03:01:43 +0000

Good work, Ryan. You said exactly what needs to be said.

Umbilical cord blood only creates stem cells for the blood. Only embryonic can make stem cells for the pancreas (Diabetes) and the best nervous system stem cells (Parkinson’s, spinal cord injuries). Embryonic stem cells, according to nearly every scientist, have the greatest potential of any kind of stem cell.

The research is legal in Michigan, but it is illegal to use embryos. So, the only research going on in Michigan right now is from a 10-year-old embryo which has only one genetic makeup and is contaminated with mouse DNA. We need NEW stem cells to do productive research, the current research isn’t very helpful.

Don’t throw away cures. Give parents the choice to donate their embryos to cure disease! VOTE YES ON 2!

By: Travis

Travis — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:16:49 +0000

I asked a lawyer friend about the ‘far reaching implications’ by sending him the wording from the actual proposal and he said…
“No law can prevent us from making changes in the future to that law or other laws that affect it. I read this section as basically saying that stem cell research is allowed under this new law, but other laws, such as privacy laws, etc., still apply so long as those laws don’t restrict stem cell research that is now allowed under this law. In other words, the general rules re medical research apply unless those general rules conflict with this new law. So to answer your question, we’re still free to change our minds in the future or to limit research, etc., in the future if we deem it necessary.”

By: Kurt

Kurt — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:05:07 +0000

Comments 6 & 7 hit it on the head. The real problem with this proposal is how far reaching it is legally, without regard to the actual content. It specifically voids any current or future state and local laws that prevent, restrict or discourage this research. It’s much too vague and sweeping wording. Unfortunately, everyone is overlooking this real issue because of the religiously charged content.

By: robin

robin — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:33:52 +0000

Here are some informational vodcasts about Stem Cell Research from UM